Saturday, June 16, 2012

Java setup pushes Ask.com. How pathetic for both Oracle and Ask.

I have written before that I have banned Java from my main PC. But Java does reside on one of my development PCs, along with a ton of other crap -- it's a necessary evil. So when Java went to update itself today, I saw this dialog:

 

 



The default setting is to install the Ask Toolbar and make Ask my default search provider. Just how desperate do Oracle and Ask have to be to do that?

If there was ever any doubt in anybody's mind that Java has jumped the shark, here you have solid proof. I am afraid to think about what Oracle will do with MySQL.

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11 comments:

Andrew Zolnai said...
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Andrew Zolnai said...

I opt to relax on this one... everyone does it! Java pushed Star Office once, MSFT pushes Bing, I got on Google+ just to view my fam's Picassa album, and I just cannot wait until I see FB pushing their phone LOL

Atanas (A.T.) Entchev said...

It is natural to promote your own stuff. We all do it -- this is at the foundation of capitalism. It is also accepted (and acceptable) to promote others' stuff -- this is called advertising.

This particular case is different, IMHO, in two ways. One: it is sneaky. Two: it promotes an inferior, dead-end product. It's like offering the visitors to your hotel a free but intentionally incomplete map of the area.

At this point I must stop and perhaps reverse myself, for this is exactly what hotels at the Jersey shore do -- offer maps of the area prepared by the local chamber of commerce. Only establishments who paid for placement appear on the map.

Now I am confused.

Yophat said...

Ask.com is malicious software though...people should go to jail for this crap!

Anonymous said...

I am loathe of having to pry off commercial crap when installing software that is a requirement for a website functionality. When working with my clients, I steer them away from anything that requires their users to have to install a Java add-on. Why have someone go to your website, install a plugin that in turn puts on a toolbar and hijacks your existing toolbar and have a client leave hating your product or services?

Atanas (A.T.) Entchev said...

I couldn't agree with you more.

Nancy said...

They're counting on people to do the usual non-read of the license agreement where, at the bottom, it asks permission to install the tool bar.

They caught me today because I had No-Script disabled momentarily and updated Java.

I miss SUN... they wouldn't have pulled this sort of crap.

Nancy said...

They're counting on people to do the usual non-read of the license agreement where, at the bottom, it asks permission to install the tool bar.

They caught me today because I had No-Script disabled momentarily and updated Java.

I miss SUN... they wouldn't have pulled this sort of crap.

BTW: These capthas are about unreadable.

Atanas (A.T.) Entchev said...

Yes! How unfortunate, to resort to sneaky trickery to distribute one's free product.

I agree on the CAPTCHAs. The system is exhausted.

Anonymous said...

Back in 2009, Sun was promoting MSFT Toolbar along with Java the same way: http://billpstudios.blogspot.de/2009/04/sun-java-promoting-microsoft-toolbar.html

Atanas (A.T.) Entchev said...

Yes! What a crappy business model (if that's what this is).